Michael Liebreich on How A.I. Giants Can Help (or Hurt) the Grid and the Prospect of Sensible Discourse with Trump's Energy Secretary

This is the podcast version of the Sustain What discussion I just had with the relentless clean-energy optimist, investor and evangelist Michael Liebreich. Key sections are on the need to switch metrics for success from kilowatt/hours to energy services; the ethics of focusing decarbonization on the most carbonized nations; the potential for energy-hungry AI giants to help United States regions revive wider grid reliability and clean-energy sourcing; and the possibility of having constructive conversations on sustainable energy abundance with the soon-to-be Trump Energy Secretary Chris Wright.

Here’s the curtain-raiser post with all the background!

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